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		By: Gabriele Gottwald		</title>
		<link>https://discern.org/2012/09/law-gospel-and-a-good-hymn/#comment-3292</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gabriele Gottwald]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Sep 2012 20:13:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Thank you Daniel.  I had not heard of Marty Goetz. The music and lyrics are beautiful.  I will definitely get one of his albums :-)

God bless you.   Gabriele.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you Daniel.  I had not heard of Marty Goetz. The music and lyrics are beautiful.  I will definitely get one of his albums :-)</p>
<p>God bless you.   Gabriele.</p>
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		By: BetterThanSacrifice		</title>
		<link>https://discern.org/2012/09/law-gospel-and-a-good-hymn/#comment-3291</link>

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		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Sep 2012 12:38:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://discern.org/2012/09/law-gospel-and-a-good-hymn/#comment-3290&quot;&gt;Gabriele Gottwald&lt;/a&gt;.

Gabriele, thank you for visiting and amen to what you say. There is of course &lt;em&gt;much&lt;/em&gt; more that could be said about hymns – my post here is the content of a 2 minute talk that I gave during an evangelistic service, so I was rather constrained in what I had time to say, especially if I wanted to include Law and Gospel :-)

I have one of the Segals’ albums and enjoyed it very much. In a not dissimilar vein, you might find you like Marty Goetz, if you are not already aware of him:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bCqKEiZ78zY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o2HqLyDAZps

Grace and peace to you in our great God and Saviour Jesus Christ.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://discern.org/2012/09/law-gospel-and-a-good-hymn/#comment-3290">Gabriele Gottwald</a>.</p>
<p>Gabriele, thank you for visiting and amen to what you say. There is of course <em>much</em> more that could be said about hymns – my post here is the content of a 2 minute talk that I gave during an evangelistic service, so I was rather constrained in what I had time to say, especially if I wanted to include Law and Gospel :-)</p>
<p>I have one of the Segals’ albums and enjoyed it very much. In a not dissimilar vein, you might find you like Marty Goetz, if you are not already aware of him:</p>
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<p>Grace and peace to you in our great God and Saviour Jesus Christ.</p>
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		By: Gabriele Gottwald		</title>
		<link>https://discern.org/2012/09/law-gospel-and-a-good-hymn/#comment-3290</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gabriele Gottwald]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Sep 2012 12:12:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hi Daniel,
Thanks for this teaching.  Hymns and Christian music are important.  Are they not supposed to be edifying and a form of prayer?  (Eph 5:19, Col 3:16).  I also like listening to the music of Barry and Batya Segal.  They are Messianic Jews and live in Jerusalem.  Their songs are often traditional and based on the Psalms or Biblical text.  Sadly, on a number of occasions  I have found myself standing in church during worship and wondering at the lyrics of a song (often Hillsong).  I even stopped singing because the words of the songs made me feel uncomfortable because they misrepresented God and the Bible, and yet these songs are spiritual.  I think the music makes us like these songs, and the atmosphere.  The worship often includes repetition of choruses or phrases, and alteration in volume, and it raises emotion.   People love it.   But it becomes the worship of worship!  When the lyrics include heresy or vagueness, then no true lesson is being taught about the work of God or our faith, and no glory is brought to God.  It&#039;s just to make us feel good, and Jesus&#039; name is used for that purpose.  But I suppose it lures people through the doors, and that might be the motives of some churches for selecting particular worship songs or styles.   I wish churches would be more careful about the songs or hymns they select and pay careful attention to the words, remembering that we are to honour God.   The right hymn keeps Christ in the centre and not the worshipper.
God Bless you.
Gabi.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Daniel,<br />
Thanks for this teaching.  Hymns and Christian music are important.  Are they not supposed to be edifying and a form of prayer?  (Eph 5:19, Col 3:16).  I also like listening to the music of Barry and Batya Segal.  They are Messianic Jews and live in Jerusalem.  Their songs are often traditional and based on the Psalms or Biblical text.  Sadly, on a number of occasions  I have found myself standing in church during worship and wondering at the lyrics of a song (often Hillsong).  I even stopped singing because the words of the songs made me feel uncomfortable because they misrepresented God and the Bible, and yet these songs are spiritual.  I think the music makes us like these songs, and the atmosphere.  The worship often includes repetition of choruses or phrases, and alteration in volume, and it raises emotion.   People love it.   But it becomes the worship of worship!  When the lyrics include heresy or vagueness, then no true lesson is being taught about the work of God or our faith, and no glory is brought to God.  It&#8217;s just to make us feel good, and Jesus&#8217; name is used for that purpose.  But I suppose it lures people through the doors, and that might be the motives of some churches for selecting particular worship songs or styles.   I wish churches would be more careful about the songs or hymns they select and pay careful attention to the words, remembering that we are to honour God.   The right hymn keeps Christ in the centre and not the worshipper.<br />
God Bless you.<br />
Gabi.</p>
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		By: BetterThanSacrifice		</title>
		<link>https://discern.org/2012/09/law-gospel-and-a-good-hymn/#comment-3289</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[BetterThanSacrifice]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Sep 2012 22:17:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://discern.org/2012/09/law-gospel-and-a-good-hymn/#comment-3288&quot;&gt;Scott&lt;/a&gt;.

Thank you Scott, I appreciate the pointer.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://discern.org/2012/09/law-gospel-and-a-good-hymn/#comment-3288">Scott</a>.</p>
<p>Thank you Scott, I appreciate the pointer.</p>
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		By: Scott		</title>
		<link>https://discern.org/2012/09/law-gospel-and-a-good-hymn/#comment-3288</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Scott]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Sep 2012 22:02:22 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[You should examine the Olney Hymnal by John Newton. It is packed with doctrinal meat, because his goal with William Cowper was to use the hymns to teach the congregation truth. We have used it at our church.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You should examine the Olney Hymnal by John Newton. It is packed with doctrinal meat, because his goal with William Cowper was to use the hymns to teach the congregation truth. We have used it at our church.</p>
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		By: Born4Battle		</title>
		<link>https://discern.org/2012/09/law-gospel-and-a-good-hymn/#comment-3287</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Born4Battle]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Sep 2012 22:57:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Amen!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amen!</p>
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