Comments on: Elephant Room 2: Bryan Crawford Loritts and the emergence of pachydermism https://discern.org/2012/01/elephant-room-2-the-emergence-of-pachydermism/ Incorporating betterthansacrifice.org Sat, 11 Feb 2012 08:14:23 +0000 hourly 1 By: BetterThanSacrifice https://discern.org/2012/01/elephant-room-2-the-emergence-of-pachydermism/#comment-3114 Sat, 11 Feb 2012 08:14:23 +0000 http://blog.betterthansacrifice.org/?p=2151#comment-3114 In reply to paul.

Paul,

As far as I am aware, Bryan was not one of the speakers, no. However, it is clear that he was more than a simple attendee from his featuring prominently in James MacDonald’s post-ER video discussions. That makes him a participant in my book. Still, I do not wish anyone to go away with the erroneous impression that he was a speaker, so I have changed the word ‘participant’ to ‘attendee’ in the first paragraph. Thank you for your comment.

]]> By: paul https://discern.org/2012/01/elephant-room-2-the-emergence-of-pachydermism/#comment-3113 Fri, 10 Feb 2012 23:21:04 +0000 http://blog.betterthansacrifice.org/?p=2151#comment-3113 This looks like bad reporting…Bryan Crawford Loritts was not a participant in the elephant room…his Dad was. Check the sources guys.

]]> By: Jon https://discern.org/2012/01/elephant-room-2-the-emergence-of-pachydermism/#comment-3112 Wed, 08 Feb 2012 20:12:15 +0000 http://blog.betterthansacrifice.org/?p=2151#comment-3112 In reply to BetterThanSacrifice.

Just a question….is being a racist and liking Voddie mutually exclusive? The same way I think Pastor Loritts is coming to a conclusion wiith faulty logic, I caution you not to throw the baby out with the bath water or let some use love for another black preacher as a way to ignore racisim and all of it subtities.

]]> By: The human cost of T.D. Jakes’ false prosperity gospel | BetterThanSacrifice.org https://discern.org/2012/01/elephant-room-2-the-emergence-of-pachydermism/#comment-3111 Tue, 07 Feb 2012 14:04:21 +0000 http://blog.betterthansacrifice.org/?p=2151#comment-3111 […] Elephant Room 2: Bryan Crawford Loritts and the emergence of pachydermism […]

]]> By: Deny The Trinity as Jakes – Or You are Racist? « Truth with Snares!? https://discern.org/2012/01/elephant-room-2-the-emergence-of-pachydermism/#comment-3110 Sun, 05 Feb 2012 10:34:57 +0000 http://blog.betterthansacrifice.org/?p=2151#comment-3110 […] Elephant Room 2: Bryan Crawford Loritts and the emergence of pachydermism […]

]]> By: Voddie Baucham accuses ER2 defenders of cult-like ‘Ethnic Gnosticism’ | BetterThanSacrifice.org https://discern.org/2012/01/elephant-room-2-the-emergence-of-pachydermism/#comment-3109 Fri, 03 Feb 2012 11:10:53 +0000 http://blog.betterthansacrifice.org/?p=2151#comment-3109 […] Elephant Room 2: Bryan Crawford Loritts and the emergence of pachydermism […]

]]> By: Elephant Room 2: playing the race card, again | BetterThanSacrifice.org https://discern.org/2012/01/elephant-room-2-the-emergence-of-pachydermism/#comment-3108 Wed, 01 Feb 2012 10:08:47 +0000 http://blog.betterthansacrifice.org/?p=2151#comment-3108 […] But perhaps the most outspoken of the three men in this video was Bryan Loritts, pastor of Fellowship Memphis Church. As you may recall, Loritts has most recently been catapulted into the spotlight for his blog post entitled, My Day With James MacDonald, T.D. Jakes and the Elephant Room. In this post, Loritts called for the reformed community to “repent” of their harsh criticism and one-sided attacks on Bishop T.D. Jakes in regard to his beliefs about the Godhead’. In response to this call to repentance, Daniel Neades of Better Than Sacrifice wrote, Loritts has apparently failed to understand that it is because we love people – including T.D. Jakes himself – that we want to be sure that they are neither inadvertently trusting in a non-Trinitarian god of their own imagination, nor being deceived by a false prosperity gospel, such as the one Jakes preaches. Loritts uncharitably judges the inward thoughts and intents of his opponents. (Online Source) […]

]]> By: James White on the discernment gap | BetterThanSacrifice.org https://discern.org/2012/01/elephant-room-2-the-emergence-of-pachydermism/#comment-3107 Tue, 31 Jan 2012 14:39:43 +0000 http://blog.betterthansacrifice.org/?p=2151#comment-3107 […] Elephant Room 2: The emergence of pachydermism […]

]]> By: Pachydermism | BetterThanSacrifice.org https://discern.org/2012/01/elephant-room-2-the-emergence-of-pachydermism/#comment-3106 Mon, 30 Jan 2012 22:00:08 +0000 http://blog.betterthansacrifice.org/?p=2151#comment-3106 […] legitimate comparison with Scripture of what a person believes, teaches and confesses.’ — The emergence of pachydermism Rate this: Share:TwitterFacebookTumblrStumbleUponEmailLike this:LikeBe the first to like this […]

]]> By: Alex Guggenheim https://discern.org/2012/01/elephant-room-2-the-emergence-of-pachydermism/#comment-3105 Mon, 30 Jan 2012 21:21:00 +0000 http://blog.betterthansacrifice.org/?p=2151#comment-3105 This is precisely why race based theology errant. Our allegiance is to the truth, however Loritts lives in a world where race based theology is not only tolerated but treated as orthodox. And this means those of the Neo-Reformed and Classic Reformed persuasion who have allowed race based theology to not only be protected but fostered. Theology is Christ based, our race is a spiritual one and our theology Jesus. We speak Jesus to one another, race is anecdotal and not for spiritual constructs, they are for social constructs. But with garbage like Piper’s Bloodlines getting the warm cozies and the PCA’s absolutely deficient understanding of genuine racism vs social segregation and slavery issues, we have now come full circle to a place where the world has pronounced on the church what doctrines are to be taught and what views we must be ashamed of because we are too stupid to understand what the Word of God teaches and does not teach.

Loritts, in warning about implications, made an explication, himself. That explication is that his spiritual and theological concerns are race based, a disgusting and sinful rejection of the protocol of Scripture which makes it spiritually based.

]]> By: Elephant Room 2 claims first Acts 29 casualty | BetterThanSacrifice.org https://discern.org/2012/01/elephant-room-2-the-emergence-of-pachydermism/#comment-3104 Mon, 30 Jan 2012 20:10:42 +0000 http://blog.betterthansacrifice.org/?p=2151#comment-3104 […] Elephant Room 2: The emergence of pachydermism […]

]]> By: Pachydermism | BetterThanSacrifice.org https://discern.org/2012/01/elephant-room-2-the-emergence-of-pachydermism/#comment-3103 Mon, 30 Jan 2012 19:20:43 +0000 http://blog.betterthansacrifice.org/?p=2151#comment-3103 […] legitimate comparison with Scripture of what a person believes, teaches and confesses.’ — The emergence of pachydermism Rate this: Share:TwitterFacebookTumblrStumbleUponEmailLike this:LikeBe the first to like this […]

]]> By: BetterThanSacrifice.org https://discern.org/2012/01/elephant-room-2-the-emergence-of-pachydermism/#comment-3102 Mon, 30 Jan 2012 19:19:11 +0000 http://blog.betterthansacrifice.org/?p=2151#comment-3102 […] legitimate comparison with Scripture of what a person believes, teaches and confesses.’ — The emergence of pachydermism Rate this: Share:TwitterFacebookTumblrStumbleUponEmailLike this:LikeBe the first to like this […]

]]> By: Voddie Baucham names the elephant in the room | BetterThanSacrifice.org https://discern.org/2012/01/elephant-room-2-the-emergence-of-pachydermism/#comment-3101 Mon, 30 Jan 2012 16:48:25 +0000 http://blog.betterthansacrifice.org/?p=2151#comment-3101 […] enumerates the problems with Jakes, and confronts the disgraceful insinuations of racism that have been in play. Finally, Baucham names the real elephant in the room: I’m not angry with […]

]]> By: Elephant Room 2: may we now regard T.D. Jakes as Trinitarian and orthodox? | BetterThanSacrifice.org https://discern.org/2012/01/elephant-room-2-the-emergence-of-pachydermism/#comment-3100 Sun, 29 Jan 2012 23:41:29 +0000 http://blog.betterthansacrifice.org/?p=2151#comment-3100 […] Elephant Room 2: The emergence of pachydermism […]

]]> By: michael henry https://discern.org/2012/01/elephant-room-2-the-emergence-of-pachydermism/#comment-3099 Sun, 29 Jan 2012 19:14:58 +0000 http://blog.betterthansacrifice.org/?p=2151#comment-3099 According to McDonald I am a Nazi because I question his invitation to a modalist (at best), and according to Furtick I am a hater because I question vision casting, which is man made. So that leaves me with perhaps being in the graces of an x-rated pastor who has porn visions, Driscoll.
So I would ask all of the named above; who is it sirs, that is creating division in the church, confusion in the aisles and doubt in the body?

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]]> By: BetterThanSacrifice https://discern.org/2012/01/elephant-room-2-the-emergence-of-pachydermism/#comment-3098 Sat, 28 Jan 2012 14:02:00 +0000 http://blog.betterthansacrifice.org/?p=2151#comment-3098 In reply to Ben.

For those who are unaware of who Voddie Baucham is, here is his website.

]]> By: Ben https://discern.org/2012/01/elephant-room-2-the-emergence-of-pachydermism/#comment-3097 Sat, 28 Jan 2012 13:54:50 +0000 http://blog.betterthansacrifice.org/?p=2151#comment-3097 Yeah, I guess that’s why we like Voddie Baucham … cuz we’re racist.

]]> By: A review of T.D. Jakes’ Code Orange Revival sermon « BetterThanSacrifice.org https://discern.org/2012/01/elephant-room-2-the-emergence-of-pachydermism/#comment-3096 Sat, 28 Jan 2012 09:51:51 +0000 http://blog.betterthansacrifice.org/?p=2151#comment-3096 […] Elephant Room 2: The emergence of pachydermism Share:TwitterFacebookTumblrStumbleUponLike this:LikeOne blogger likes this post. This entry was written by BetterThanSacrifice, posted on Sunday, 22 January 2012 at 5:57 pm, filed under Christianity, Religion, Salvation. Bookmark the permalink. Follow any comments here with the RSS feed for this post. Post a comment or leave a trackback: Trackback URL. « Why SOPA and PIPA are bad news in the battle for sound doctrine Running scared: why is The Elephant Room afraid of scrutiny? » […]

]]> By: Elephant Room 2: Uh, this is embarrassing… « BetterThanSacrifice.org https://discern.org/2012/01/elephant-room-2-the-emergence-of-pachydermism/#comment-3095 Sat, 28 Jan 2012 08:52:52 +0000 http://blog.betterthansacrifice.org/?p=2151#comment-3095 […] BetterThanSacrifice.org Bible-Based, Christ-Centred Resources and Comment Skip to content AboutComment policy « Elephant Room 2: the emergence of pachydermism […]

]]> By: Marcia https://discern.org/2012/01/elephant-room-2-the-emergence-of-pachydermism/#comment-3094 Sat, 28 Jan 2012 02:38:51 +0000 http://blog.betterthansacrifice.org/?p=2151#comment-3094 Excellent response to the baseless “call to repentance.” The whole ER2 incident with T. D. Jakes is just another symptom of the minimization of doctrine and the rise of feel-good subjectivism within the church. It’s sad to see it.

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