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		By: Mark Driscoll &#8211; 21st Century Humpty Dumpty? &#124; The Wartburg Watch		</title>
		<link>https://discern.org/2012/01/elephant-room-2-claims-first-acts-29-casualty/#comment-3161</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mark Driscoll &#8211; 21st Century Humpty Dumpty? &#124; The Wartburg Watch]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Mar 2012 03:26:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[...] Not to worry&#8230; you can read much of what Chad wrote on another blog &#8211; Elephant Room 2 claims first Acts 29 casualty  [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Not to worry&#8230; you can read much of what Chad wrote on another blog &#8211; Elephant Room 2 claims first Acts 29 casualty  [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: Momentum Gathers as Third Harvest Bible Fellowship Church Dissociates Over ER2 &#124; BetterThanSacrifice.org		</title>
		<link>https://discern.org/2012/01/elephant-room-2-claims-first-acts-29-casualty/#comment-3160</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Momentum Gathers as Third Harvest Bible Fellowship Church Dissociates Over ER2 &#124; BetterThanSacrifice.org]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Mar 2012 22:59:33 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[...] from MacDonald’s Harvest Bible Fellowship. Sovereign Grace Church of Bakersfield similarly left the Acts 29 network founded by ER2 moderator Mark Driscoll of Mars Hill [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] from MacDonald’s Harvest Bible Fellowship. Sovereign Grace Church of Bakersfield similarly left the Acts 29 network founded by ER2 moderator Mark Driscoll of Mars Hill [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: Second Harvest Bible Fellowship Church Dissociates Over ER2 &#124; BetterThanSacrifice.org		</title>
		<link>https://discern.org/2012/01/elephant-room-2-claims-first-acts-29-casualty/#comment-3159</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Second Harvest Bible Fellowship Church Dissociates Over ER2 &#124; BetterThanSacrifice.org]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Mar 2012 09:22:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[...] of Harvest Bible Chapel Detroit West in January. Sovereign Grace Church of Bakersfield similarly left the Acts 29 network founded by ER2 moderator Mark Driscoll of Mars Hill [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] of Harvest Bible Chapel Detroit West in January. Sovereign Grace Church of Bakersfield similarly left the Acts 29 network founded by ER2 moderator Mark Driscoll of Mars Hill [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: Josh Elsom		</title>
		<link>https://discern.org/2012/01/elephant-room-2-claims-first-acts-29-casualty/#comment-3158</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Josh Elsom]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Feb 2012 23:05:36 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[No longer on this website - http://www.acts29network.org/churches/#state:california
Still on this one - http://sojournnetwork.com/churches/]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No longer on this website &#8211; <a href="http://www.acts29network.org/churches/#state:california" rel="nofollow ugc">http://www.acts29network.org/churches/#state:california</a><br />
Still on this one &#8211; <a href="http://sojournnetwork.com/churches/" rel="nofollow ugc">http://sojournnetwork.com/churches/</a></p>
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		By: Ruben Carrillo		</title>
		<link>https://discern.org/2012/01/elephant-room-2-claims-first-acts-29-casualty/#comment-3157</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ruben Carrillo]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Feb 2012 00:54:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://discern.org/2012/01/elephant-room-2-claims-first-acts-29-casualty/#comment-3150&quot;&gt;Headless Unicorn Guy&lt;/a&gt;.

Uh, not really. Chad is my pastor, and he is used to controversy. Don&#039;t assume you know his intentions.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://discern.org/2012/01/elephant-room-2-claims-first-acts-29-casualty/#comment-3150">Headless Unicorn Guy</a>.</p>
<p>Uh, not really. Chad is my pastor, and he is used to controversy. Don&#8217;t assume you know his intentions.</p>
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		By: Jon		</title>
		<link>https://discern.org/2012/01/elephant-room-2-claims-first-acts-29-casualty/#comment-3156</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jon]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Feb 2012 20:24:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[http://www.acts29network.org/acts-29-blog/dear-acts-29-members/

&lt;b&gt; 1. The Board of Acts 29 will be myself, Pastor Matt Chandler, Pastor Darrin Patrick, and Pastor Dave Bruskas. Each man has been able to hand off their network to full-time staff, thereby freeing them up to go to the next level of leadership and help me work across all of Acts 29 and serve all of the networks that comprise the A29. Each man also has a church staff that is large enough with sufficient funding to do more than one network and help invest in others. Furthermore, Pastors Darrin and Matt can help me be in community with wise counsel from A29 and navigate the ever-increasing complicated waters of the broader church and culture, and represent us in the media and at events, as well as through preaching and publishing. Pastor Dave runs the entire ministry side of Mars Hill and can assist me with the details of running Acts 29 centrally.

With Pastor Scott’s encouragement and the board approval, &lt;i&gt; this means I am resuming the presidency of Acts 29. I want to invest every resource and relationship at my disposal to serve our church planters. Consider this primarily the “Prophet” board.&lt;/i&gt; This board is not closed and other men may join it in years to come. This board will be meeting soon in California, long before our annual retreat, so that we have a clear battle plan for the next season of Acts 29. &lt;/b&gt;]]></description>
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<p><b> 1. The Board of Acts 29 will be myself, Pastor Matt Chandler, Pastor Darrin Patrick, and Pastor Dave Bruskas. Each man has been able to hand off their network to full-time staff, thereby freeing them up to go to the next level of leadership and help me work across all of Acts 29 and serve all of the networks that comprise the A29. Each man also has a church staff that is large enough with sufficient funding to do more than one network and help invest in others. Furthermore, Pastors Darrin and Matt can help me be in community with wise counsel from A29 and navigate the ever-increasing complicated waters of the broader church and culture, and represent us in the media and at events, as well as through preaching and publishing. Pastor Dave runs the entire ministry side of Mars Hill and can assist me with the details of running Acts 29 centrally.</p>
<p>With Pastor Scott’s encouragement and the board approval, <i> this means I am resuming the presidency of Acts 29. I want to invest every resource and relationship at my disposal to serve our church planters. Consider this primarily the “Prophet” board.</i> This board is not closed and other men may join it in years to come. This board will be meeting soon in California, long before our annual retreat, so that we have a clear battle plan for the next season of Acts 29. </b></p>
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		By: The human cost of T.D. Jakes’ false prosperity gospel &#124; BetterThanSacrifice.org		</title>
		<link>https://discern.org/2012/01/elephant-room-2-claims-first-acts-29-casualty/#comment-3155</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The human cost of T.D. Jakes’ false prosperity gospel &#124; BetterThanSacrifice.org]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Feb 2012 14:04:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[...] Anyabwile has done so, as have Pastor Voddie Baucham, Dr. James White, Pastor Dan McGhee, and Pastor Chad Vegas. Others yet remain silent, make their views known only behind closed doors, or else express their [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Anyabwile has done so, as have Pastor Voddie Baucham, Dr. James White, Pastor Dan McGhee, and Pastor Chad Vegas. Others yet remain silent, make their views known only behind closed doors, or else express their [&#8230;]</p>
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		By: Deny The Trinity as Jakes &#8211; Or You are Racist? &#171; Truth with Snares!?		</title>
		<link>https://discern.org/2012/01/elephant-room-2-claims-first-acts-29-casualty/#comment-3154</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Deny The Trinity as Jakes &#8211; Or You are Racist? &#171; Truth with Snares!?]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Feb 2012 10:35:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[[...] Elephant Room 2 claims first Acts 29 casualty [...]]]></description>
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		By: Jacob		</title>
		<link>https://discern.org/2012/01/elephant-room-2-claims-first-acts-29-casualty/#comment-3153</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jacob]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2012 17:09:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://discern.org/2012/01/elephant-room-2-claims-first-acts-29-casualty/#comment-3149&quot;&gt;Paul&lt;/a&gt;.

It is not a denomination. You have a misunderstanding as to how A29 functions as a network of churches. Mark is on the board of directors but is not a &quot;head&quot; as you are asserting. That being said there are discussions/concerns being voiced within the network... thinking the best of those who are brothers while addressing significant concerns about ER2 and its implications.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://discern.org/2012/01/elephant-room-2-claims-first-acts-29-casualty/#comment-3149">Paul</a>.</p>
<p>It is not a denomination. You have a misunderstanding as to how A29 functions as a network of churches. Mark is on the board of directors but is not a &#8220;head&#8221; as you are asserting. That being said there are discussions/concerns being voiced within the network&#8230; thinking the best of those who are brothers while addressing significant concerns about ER2 and its implications.</p>
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		By: Voddie Baucham accuses ER2 defenders of cult-like ‘Ethnic Gnosticism’ &#124; BetterThanSacrifice.org		</title>
		<link>https://discern.org/2012/01/elephant-room-2-claims-first-acts-29-casualty/#comment-3152</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Voddie Baucham accuses ER2 defenders of cult-like ‘Ethnic Gnosticism’ &#124; BetterThanSacrifice.org]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2012 11:07:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		By: Headless Unicorn Guy		</title>
		<link>https://discern.org/2012/01/elephant-room-2-claims-first-acts-29-casualty/#comment-3151</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Headless Unicorn Guy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2012 15:02:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[“.. I also knew Mark and many of the other brothers are faithful ministers of the gospel,..”
&quot;It would appear a big divide is growing in the church. The “let’s accept everyone” and the ones who stand by the Word of God&quot;
“Mark Driscoll is not the Federal Head of Acts29…and none of us are indicted by his error.”

doubleplusgoodthink, comrades.
doubleplusgood doubleplusduckspeak!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“.. I also knew Mark and many of the other brothers are faithful ministers of the gospel,..”<br />
&#8220;It would appear a big divide is growing in the church. The “let’s accept everyone” and the ones who stand by the Word of God&#8221;<br />
“Mark Driscoll is not the Federal Head of Acts29…and none of us are indicted by his error.”</p>
<p>doubleplusgoodthink, comrades.<br />
doubleplusgood doubleplusduckspeak!</p>
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		By: Headless Unicorn Guy		</title>
		<link>https://discern.org/2012/01/elephant-room-2-claims-first-acts-29-casualty/#comment-3150</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Headless Unicorn Guy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Feb 2012 14:58:44 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;Vegas has withdrawn his post from his blog.&lt;/i&gt;

i.e. Vegas has been Silenced in the name of Gawd and Mark Driscoll.
(Not necessarily in that order.)
Long. Live. Big. Brother.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Vegas has withdrawn his post from his blog.</i></p>
<p>i.e. Vegas has been Silenced in the name of Gawd and Mark Driscoll.<br />
(Not necessarily in that order.)<br />
Long. Live. Big. Brother.</p>
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		By: Paul		</title>
		<link>https://discern.org/2012/01/elephant-room-2-claims-first-acts-29-casualty/#comment-3149</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Paul]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Feb 2012 21:54:57 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://discern.org/2012/01/elephant-room-2-claims-first-acts-29-casualty/#comment-3147&quot;&gt;Josh Elsom&lt;/a&gt;.

&quot;Mark Driscoll is not the Federal Head of Acts29...and none of us are indicted by his error.&quot;

You are in denial.
As long as you and others stay in the denomination, you are sending a loud and clear message to the church and to the world. Silence equals complicity. Are there no Bonhoeffers among you?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://discern.org/2012/01/elephant-room-2-claims-first-acts-29-casualty/#comment-3147">Josh Elsom</a>.</p>
<p>&#8220;Mark Driscoll is not the Federal Head of Acts29&#8230;and none of us are indicted by his error.&#8221;</p>
<p>You are in denial.<br />
As long as you and others stay in the denomination, you are sending a loud and clear message to the church and to the world. Silence equals complicity. Are there no Bonhoeffers among you?</p>
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		By: Elephant Room 2: playing the race card, again &#124; BetterThanSacrifice.org		</title>
		<link>https://discern.org/2012/01/elephant-room-2-claims-first-acts-29-casualty/#comment-3148</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Elephant Room 2: playing the race card, again &#124; BetterThanSacrifice.org]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Feb 2012 10:09:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		By: Josh Elsom		</title>
		<link>https://discern.org/2012/01/elephant-room-2-claims-first-acts-29-casualty/#comment-3147</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Josh Elsom]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jan 2012 17:51:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Mark Driscoll is not the Federal Head of Acts29, he is not the pope and none of us are indicted by his error. Acts29 is a network of church plants which share certain core distinctives, nothing more. Though, I can certainly respect someone&#039;s decision to pull out of the network for Mark&#039;s affirmation of TD Jakes&#039; ministry.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark Driscoll is not the Federal Head of Acts29, he is not the pope and none of us are indicted by his error. Acts29 is a network of church plants which share certain core distinctives, nothing more. Though, I can certainly respect someone&#8217;s decision to pull out of the network for Mark&#8217;s affirmation of TD Jakes&#8217; ministry.</p>
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		By: James White on the discernment gap &#124; BetterThanSacrifice.org		</title>
		<link>https://discern.org/2012/01/elephant-room-2-claims-first-acts-29-casualty/#comment-3146</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[James White on the discernment gap &#124; BetterThanSacrifice.org]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jan 2012 14:39:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		By: terriergal		</title>
		<link>https://discern.org/2012/01/elephant-room-2-claims-first-acts-29-casualty/#comment-3145</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[terriergal]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jan 2012 02:02:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[The blog post you link to has been removed...?
I hope they aren&#039;t reconsidering.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The blog post you link to has been removed&#8230;?<br />
I hope they aren&#8217;t reconsidering.</p>
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		By: Olivia W.		</title>
		<link>https://discern.org/2012/01/elephant-room-2-claims-first-acts-29-casualty/#comment-3144</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Olivia W.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jan 2012 01:25:35 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It would appear a big divide is growing in the church. The &quot;let&#039;s accept everyone&quot; and the ones who stand by the Word of God.]]></description>
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		By: michael henry		</title>
		<link>https://discern.org/2012/01/elephant-room-2-claims-first-acts-29-casualty/#comment-3143</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[michael henry]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jan 2012 01:01:09 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[&quot;.. I also knew Mark and many of the other brothers are faithful ministers of the gospel,..&quot;

Seriously brother? X-rated visions and porn sermons are faithful? I see a big disconnect between that being ok and the er2 (really gives elephants a bad name) handling being wrong. All are part and parcel of the same issue, which is NOT being faithful to the Gospel.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;.. I also knew Mark and many of the other brothers are faithful ministers of the gospel,..&#8221;</p>
<p>Seriously brother? X-rated visions and porn sermons are faithful? I see a big disconnect between that being ok and the er2 (really gives elephants a bad name) handling being wrong. All are part and parcel of the same issue, which is NOT being faithful to the Gospel.</p>
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		By: Zach		</title>
		<link>https://discern.org/2012/01/elephant-room-2-claims-first-acts-29-casualty/#comment-3142</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Zach]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Jan 2012 00:14:30 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Daniel...

I am assuming that you know that the pastor&#039;s blog post no longer exists.

Zach]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Daniel&#8230;</p>
<p>I am assuming that you know that the pastor&#8217;s blog post no longer exists.</p>
<p>Zach</p>
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